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Syracuse May Be the Deepest Team in the Big East Next Season

We project the ’11-’12 roster with the addition of the Three Amigos.

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While last year’s Syracuse squad was a pleasant surprise, it was the recruiting hauls of the last two seasons anticipated by college hoops insiders across the nation. Alongside Fab Melo, Dion Waiters and C.J. Fair, the Orange was adding Rakeem Christmas, Trevor Cooney and Michael Carter-Williams. The tandem of Murphkins has sprinkled magic on the recruiting trail. The Fizz spoke with all three members of the incoming basketball class and takes a week-long look next season for the Orange.

Combined they bring an enormous amount of talent to the table, and there’s a camaraderie ¬†already developed after years of being recruited by Syracuse.¬†The Three Amigos have the ability not only to play immediately as freshman, but to be a significant part of the Orange success next year.¬†A look closer, though, at next season‚Äôs projected roster, shows there may not be adequate room for the freshmen to get a chance.

Many felt coming into this season Kris Joseph was going to kick ass and take names… of all the agents competing for his services. He was expected to bolt for the first round of the NBA draft. Joseph‚Äôs had a fine junior year, but he‚Äôs proved to be no Wes Johnson either. With SU’s roller coaster season, K-Jo has fallen beneath the national radar. He‚Äôs all over the place in mock drafts; he’s fallen between late first and middle of the second round. Others have removed him from the board, thinking he‚Äôll return to Syracuse for his senior year.

There’s a good chance that’s exactly what will happen. Joseph hasn‚Äôt done enough to prove he‚Äôs a first round pick, and if he‚Äôs smart he‚Äôll stay in CNY to raise his stock by making another NCAA Tournament run.

If Joseph returns, here’s next year’s projected roster (not including walk-ons):

Probable Starters

G – Scoop Jardine

G – Brandon Triche

F – Kris Joseph

F – C.J. Fair

C – Baye Moussa-Keita

Bench Players

Guards – Dion Waiters, Michael Carter-Williams, Trevor Cooney, Mookie Jones

Forwards – Rakeem Christmas, James Southerland

Centers – Fab Melo, DaShonte Riley

SU has 13 players capable of contributing. Jim Boeheim, as we know, likes to aim for a seven or eight man rotation. With so many underclassmen in the fold and only veterans Jardine, Triche, and Joseph being relied upon heavily, the rotation could reasonably be expanded to nine. Something, or really someone’s got to give, and as of right now there’s no telling who the givers will be.

The first thing we can do to whittle down the above list is cross Mookie Jones off it. He couldn’t crack the lineup this year on a less talented team this year, so he certainly won’t be seeing floor time next season.

James Southerland is the next easiest name to eliminate. Boeheim has had no problem relegating him to the pine this season, even though the Orange could really use his outside shooting and an extra body to spell Rick Jackson. Southerland is a great guy, but unfortunately he hasn’t developed into a consistent player.

Now we’re down to 11 for about nine spots. Moussa-Keita has simply outplayed Fab to this point, so barring a basketball epiphany for Melo over the summer, the starting job should be Keita’s. The Senegalese freshman is still very raw though, with limited offensive skills and a relatively slender frame. You can expect him to get into foul trouble frequently as the starter next season. Even if he can stay on the court, some of the big bruisers in the Big East could wear him down.

Because of that his backups will have ample opportunities for playing time. Fab and Dashonte can both potentially give SU a little more on offense than Keita can, who is practically worthless on that side of the ball.

Hopefully, Melo can get his act together over the summer and work his way towards redeeming his Preseason Big East Rookie of the Year expectations. If Fab can get in shape and prepare himself mentally and physically to play an entire season of big time college basketball, Keita and he should be able to split the center minutes 50-50.

That’s far from a given though, which is why Riley shouldn’t be written off quite yet. The seven-footer from Detroit made a cameo late last season after Arinze Onuaku went down, and looked like he wasn’t ready for game action yet. Riley apparently added muscle to his skinny body this past summer, before a foot injury in the fall ended his season. Had he been healthy, it’s possible he’d be getting significant playing time right now, and Keita may have been redshirted.

The truth is it’s not going to be as simple as Boeheim selecting nine guys on Opening Night and sticking with that same group the rest of the way. We’d like to think that Melo and Keita can handle all the center minutes, but they’re still extremely untested and unproven. Combined, they average just 19 minutes per game in conference play right now. Asking them to double that is a dangerous proposition. Chances are, they’ll be inconsistent enough that additional help from Riley will be needed, eliminating the concept of a tight eight or nine man rotation.

The same thing can be said about the guard situation next year. MCW and Cooney will come in and expect to play. Scoop, Triche, and Waiters are already here. Boeheim’s intention heading into key Big East games will never be to try and play five guards. But will Carter-Williams, Waiters, or Cooney give consistent enough play to warrant a permanent place in the rotation? That’s awfully tough to forecast.

Pencil Jardine and Triche in the lineup, and Joseph if he comes back. Fair has done enough as freshmen to get plenty of minutes as a sophomore. Christmas is a top power forward recruit on a squad losing its only true post presence, so he’ll play. He might even start, with Boeheim making Fair the team‚Äôs offensive sparkplug off the bench.

While the high preseason expectations for were met early by Syracuse, the last two months have been a grind. Dreams of the #3 team in the country reaching Jim Boeheim’s elusive fourth Final Four have been replaced by the hopes it can simply make out of the NCAA Tournament’s opening weekend. But this year’s disappointment should be replaced with next year’s optimism. The incoming Three Amigos may make the Orange the deepest team in the Big East.

Posted: Andrew Kanell

12 responses to “Syracuse May Be the Deepest Team in the Big East Next Season”

  1. chris Avatar
    chris

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Scoop is gone. or encouraged to leave

  2. Evan Avatar
    Evan

    krisjo is gone, there is zero question about that. anddd scoop may pull the devendorf, harris, donte greene and leave early even hes not supposed to. hes a sr academically and his best friend rickyj will be gone. i EXPECT rickyJ, krisjo, and scoop to be gone next year, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME! we have so much talent coming in to replace them.

  3. Bill Avatar
    Bill

    I agree with Chris. I think Scoop will be encouraged to leave like Paul Harris was.Rick will be gone. I think Mookie may transfer to a small school. I think Joseph will probably have to come back unless he wants to be playing in Europe… but if he’s gone the ‘Cuse will survive.

  4. Carlton Avatar
    Carlton

    Scoop wont leave. So what Rj will be gone waiters is his cousin those two will want to play another yr together. Jimmy also likes scoop they havent clashed like paul harris and he did. I swear 3 of the dumbest comments i’ve ever seen posted on here.

  5. DocAlKy Avatar
    DocAlKy

    Little I agree with here.
    Melo will redshirt.
    Dion will fight for PT. Too much of a tweener. Not a PG. Not the slickest handle. Not a good enough shooter for 2G. Cooney sounds like gym rat that will buy into zone. If he can shoot 3, he will play.
    MCW sees much time as point. JB will love 6’5″ PG on top of zone.
    Rakeem will get serious minutes as shot blockers always welcome in back of zone.
    CJ has good stroke at FT line. Look for him to be 3 pt threat next year. As he bulks up, he will be load inside as well.
    Southerland’s shot and athleticism will push Joseph. JB loves seniors but he loves defense more.
    Joseph is going nowhere unless he lights it up in March.
    Does Scoop look like NBA PG? Not the best handle and inconsistent shooter. Needs work in weight room and at 3 pt. line.
    Riley will start. Recent SU players have shown big gains after year off. Riley good passer. BMK comes off bench.
    Mookie-who knows. His D looked better when he did play but so one dimensional on offense.As this team will contend for NC-2 seniors and a battle tested junior with sophs who saw plenty of minutes, Mookie may hang around.
    If Triche can learn to finish around rim, he will be All BE.

  6. Connor Avatar
    Connor

    Lets be honest. Melo hasn’t impressed Jimmy at all, and Mookie isn’t even playingthis year, much less with 2 more freshman guards. My prediction is jardine,triche,joseph,keita,and fair all get good minutes, however Jimmy will probably pick his fav between the freshman guards. The guard he picks will take waiters’ place. As for big men, i think christmas will be worked in slowly, and will be a fulltime starter in a few years. Basically the minutes will work like this:
    Jardine-35+ minutes
    Triche-30 minutes
    JImmy’s fav of the other 3 guards-15 minutes
    cj fair- 20-30 minutes
    joseph-40 minutes
    keita-20 minutes
    christmas-20 minutes
    southerland-10 minutes
    riley/melo- 1-10 minutes (combined)
    It’s not rocket science, you guys just enjoy making this sound complicated. This is about how it will start out, and then like always it WILL thin out with injurys,boeheims dislike,and any other x factor

  7. Nate Avatar
    Nate

    There are 2 certainties for next years team; 1. Scoop Jardine is their starting “point guard.”
    2. Every scholarship player who puts on a uniform next year will have a case for playing time.

    Like Scoop, Kris has a lot to gain by a good senior season. The only other possible loss of a player is 1 of the big men. If Mookie was going to transfer he’d have done so by now; he seems to be content with limited minutes for a major program if it gets him a career in Europe. Riley, Keita or Melo could transfer almost anywhere they wanted and get starters minutes the rest of their careers.

    In a perfect world – Keita would red-shirt, and take the extra year to bulk up and work on the coordination. Melo looked encouraging towards the end of the year, and I think he’ll be much improved next season. Only good things have been said about Riley’s development.

    It sounds like MCW will challenge Dion for minutes behind Brandon and Scoop. The logjam at the 3 and 4 positions is mostly a guess. Of 13 total scholarships, the battle comes down to 10.

    1-Scoop
    2-Brandon
    3-Kris
    4-CJ
    5-Melo/Riley

    Bench: Christmas, Dion/MCW, Southerland

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  9. Rick Avatar
    Rick

    Guess what Kris ain’t gone,we only lost Jackson !!!

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